The Sacred Void: Navigating the Threshold Between Who You Were and Who You’re Becoming

There is a moment—raw, electric, and terrifying—where your old identity dissolves and your future self hasn’t fully arrived. This is the Void. The sacred in-between. In this episode, Jillian Greyse guides you through the quantum terrain of transformation, where timelines collapse, identities unravel, and manifestation begins in the dark.

You’ll learn how to:

• Decode the energetic architecture of the Void
• Harness vibrational tools to stabilize your frequency mid-transition
• Activate your future self through multidimensional meditation and quantum alignment
• Reframe uncertainty as sacred initiation

This isn’t just a podcast—it’s a portal. If you’re in the liminal space, this transmission will awaken your power, recalibrate your path, and remind you: the Void isn’t empty. It’s where creation begins.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Embracing Change and Release
• 9:42 Understanding Energy and Plasma
• 18:12 Maintaining Alignment During Transitions
• 25:48 Question: Silence and Moving Forward
• 29:13 Question: Aligning With New Desires
• 33:22 Question: Grieving Your Former Self

Transcript

Speaker 1: 1:27

no-transcript questions come in this month. Just based on this, and throughout the years when I've worked with clients, I have seen them struggle time and time again with this concept, and that concept is when you change and when you start to make different choices, the world around you starts to change, and so much about that is a really positive thing. But there's also parts of it that involve old aspects of yourself needing to die off or old relationships needing to be released, even old jobs, and I've seen people way too many times on the brink of being able to take those next steps and then suddenly being unable to move forward because they don't want to leave the old world behind. Because it's scary sometimes to walk into something new, and before we start to answer your specific questions, I want to cover with all of you why that happens. So this is a natural part of what occurs when your energy evolves. You attract what you are, not what you want. You're always going to hear me say that a lot, because we're working with energy.

Speaker 1: 2:36

We're working with the element of frequency around us, which science is now discovering deeper and understanding that it's actually plasma, which we've known a long time. Those of you who have been in kind of like the energy circuit. For a long period of time, we've been well aware that this element is plasma. It's space in between you and something that's across the room. It's not just air, it's the space in between molecules. It is plasma, which is an electrical charged frequency, and so much can be manipulated and so much can be sent through a plasmic field. We are really beginning to break the science boundaries on that concept of plasma. But as we're working through and understanding deeper on how you manifest, on how it works for you to set your intention and then see a result, on how that, what energy you have, is the energy you get back, how that works, that works through plasma and that's why it's a science, it's not just a wishful thinking. And the more and more people understand this, the more and more they're using it. So we're seeing a lot of really bizarre things occur right now. We're seeing a lot of breakdowns of old ideals. We're seeing a lot of people have success and going okay, how did this person get successful? They, you know, I can't even understand it they're working with the elements at play. So your job to stay involved in that process and to stay ahead of the game as we enter this new paradigm on this planet, is to also familiarize yourself with that science, and that is why I started this podcast.

Speaker 1: 4:11

And when you make changes in your life, things shift, and sometimes they shift in ways where you want them to shift and sometimes they shift in ways where you are going to be sad as something dissolves. And that's where you have to focus your energy in on knowing when to let go and knowing when something needs to be worked on so that it can continue to expand, and it could be sometimes challenging to tell the difference between the two. So first, what happens when you change? Like I mentioned before, the world around you changes. So that means that relationships that are no longer able to sustain the frequency of where you're headed are going to dissolve. So friendships are going to dissolve. Maybe even loving relationships with your partner is going to take a shift.

Speaker 1: 5:00

You're also going to find that you may align with different job opportunities, so before a new job opportunity arrives, your old job might dissolve, and that can be a very scary part. It knocks you off course with what your intentions are, because if you are moving forward and you're feeling abundant and you're feeling like you are deserving, and then, all of a sudden, you lose your job and there's not another job for you to connect to. Yet what happens all too often and I've watched this so many times is people get caught up in fear, they get caught up in lack. So they take that abundance frequency that they were previously sending out, and when changes start to appear in their outer world, if they aren't immediately followed by a safety or something that makes you feel like the old you, then they panic and before you know it, they wreak havoc on the entire manifestation that they were bringing forward, and that is a sure way to dramatically stunt your growth. So what do we need to do in order to keep in line with that energy, to keep in line with that frequency?

Speaker 1: 6:08

I believe in my heart of hearts, with all the people I've worked with, the biggest part is to tell everyone this is going to happen and when it does happen, this is your job. Because when you know what you're supposed to do to override those frequencies or to continue through those frequencies, then there's a level of empowerment, there's a level of choice that you have in the controlling of that energy, so that you can move it forward in the direction that you want and that changes your perspective as you move through it. And moving through it is the key to know that you're just moving through something and you aren't in the middle of a huge catastrophe or a big mistake. Or now, all of a sudden, you're going to be unemployed. So how does that align with the future of your abundance? Everything that happens once you set your attention. You have to remain in the mindset that it's happening to achieve your ultimate goal. The good, the sad and the things that you might think in the moment are undesirable.

Speaker 1: 7:11

But the universe is going to show you and I use the word the universe I'm really talking about that plasma, that energy, that electrical impulse. It is going to show you anything that's in your way as soon as you ask for something different to occur. So let's say, you ask for the love of your life to come up and you want to connect with someone on a soulmate level, well, the universe is going to show you all the aspects of yourself that sets you apart from that. So it's going to show you all of the inner dialogue moments where you feel like you aren't good enough. It's going to show you all of the inner dialogue moments where you feel like you aren't good enough. It's going to show you the times when you feel like you're a victim to relationships. It's going to show you the negative energy you might hold on from seeing relationships growing up. Maybe your parents got divorced or they had a very poor connection. It is going to bring up all of those past emotions. It's not doing that.

Speaker 1: 8:00

And when I say it again, I'm talking about energy. I'm talking about the attraction of the frequency that you send off to you, your higher self. Whatever you want to use theologically to make you rectify that understanding of that science of frequency is perfectly fine, but that frequency is going to be brought towards you so that you get an opportunity to see what has been holding you back. If you want abundance, then you're going to, once you align with abundance, have a whole lot of information coming your way about your previous lack of abundance, and that is meant for you to take a checklist, to take charge of what you're seeing, to understand.

Speaker 1: 8:39

Okay, if I'm going to move forward, these things cannot come with me. I can't still continue to think that everything is too expensive. I can't still continue to think that when I sign into the computer and I sign into my bank account. I can't start to cry. I can't still continue to think the world is against me and it's going to prevent me from buying a house. I can't still continue to think that I'm never going to get a raise at my job. So all of that old clutter is going to come out and it's going to call on you to set it aside and continue forward with the plan, with the intention.

Speaker 1: 9:16

So, when it does come out, focusing your energy on how abundance is natural for you, on how you're bringing towards you everything that you desire, using mantras to do so, using ways to manipulate that plasma, which are techniques that help you lighten up your mood or bring your energy up, things that we've heard about since ancient times, everything from prayer to meditation, to going to walks in nature, to taking an opportunity to journal, to release All of those things that got labeled as new agey or self-helpy. That is how you move that frequency out of your way so you can direct your plasma deeper. And there's no question in my mind that those things were labeled what they were in an effort to prevent people from doing them more, or in an effort to get people to doing them more, or in an effort to get people to either feel like they weren't something that was positive for them or that they were wasting their time, because us understanding plasma as souls on this planet is huge. It means we get to manipulate the frequencies coming in, and I'm really going to encourage all of you and I may do a full episode on plasma, but I didn't want anyone to fall asleep. So I'm going to encourage all of you, and I may do a full episode on plasma, but I didn't want anyone to fall asleep.

Speaker 1: 10:28

So I'm going to encourage all of you to look at plasma and the energy of it, and why it's called the fourth element and why it's considered something so powerful, even in science, and then you'll get the opportunity to understand. That's what we're working with here, everybody. We aren't working with this fake fantasy idea. We're working with this scientific understanding of how energy flows and how we can channel it into different ways. Electricity moves based on a lot of different factors. Our entire body is electricity. Our heart beats due to an electrical frequency that runs through us, and that's science. So learning to manipulate that, that's our job. That's what we're here to be stepping into. So I want to encourage all of you to set aside that part of your mind that's doubting and focus your energy as deeply as you can on how to evolve, because everybody's evolving, the world's evolving. It's moving rapidly, so you can either choose to be on board with it or hear about it secondhand. I'm a front runner. I always have been. It's the way my energy flows, so I like to be the first to know, and then I can dissect it from there and use it the way that I want, and that's why I teach all of you to do the same.

Speaker 1: 11:38

Now we're going to move on to our very deep viewer questions that came through this month and last month, and I'm also going to encourage all of you please send in your own questions. You can just go to jilliangracecom slash ask and you can send over any questions that you have responded to. I take an enormous amount of time and effort to make sure that the questions I do choose subtly answer pretty much most of the other ones that are also in line with that topic. So no matter what your answer to your question is going to be provided, it's just a matter of being able to see the similarities, because we are all struggling with such similar things. See the similarities, because we are all struggling with such similar things, and getting the opportunity to pull out of your specific vantage point and take a look at how so many other people are also affected by this, to really grasp that this is a collective change is so important. As always, I am incredibly grateful for all of the questions that all of you send in, and I'm also grateful for everyone who is sharing this podcast. I mean, my assistant and I were looking at the stats just from the last podcast. I did, and they surpassed any expectation I possibly had when I first started doing this. I want to thank all of you for doing your part and for choosing to be part of this shift and for choosing to learn and grow and expand, because that's what we're here to do.

Speaker 1: 13:05

Okay, our first question comes from Jules, from Marfa, texas, and Jules writes I know I'm not supposed to go back, but the silence is deafening. How do I listen for what's next, even though it seems like everything is falling apart? This was such a heavy and close to home moment for me when I read this question because I've seen it so many times. I've seen it so many times when people decide they're going to make simple changes. They're going to focus their energy on wanting more love, and when they do that, all of a sudden the people in their life that were previously in it when they had that lack of love start to act up. They start to distance themselves, they start to even do things that are outwardly mean and upsetting. I have seen people who want to align with a deeper form of respect in their job or their workplace or something more fulfilling, and then four weeks later, they have a opportunity to sit down with their boss, and their boss lets them go, and they now have no job. Boss, and their boss lets them go, and they now have no job, nothing to go to, nothing to go on, and they begin to panic. So here is what you do instead of going back.

Speaker 1: 14:19

Because I want you to know, going back means panicking. It means that feeling within you where, all of a sudden, you don't trust where things are going and you start to think oh my god, oh my god, what's happening? What's next? Oh, this is not going to be good. What do I do when you start to get that? That is the description of the old you who is surfacing to show you exactly those doubts and those fears and those things that you would say to your inner dialogue self to block you from the goal that you want to bring towards you.

Speaker 1: 14:49

So what's your job? Your job is to not listen to it. Your job is to take a step back and understand where it's coming from, because the moment that you understand where something is flowing from, you gain the ability to then decide what you want to do with that. Something I will always say for anybody having awareness is key In that moment, that awareness that is going to be your key. That is going to be your opportunity to make some choices on what path you want to go down. Do you want to go down that fear path? Do you want to continue feeling like you're alone? Do you want to continue focusing on that silence being deafening, or do you want to focus on that silence being an opportunity, that silence being a moment for you to declare freedom? It's a change of your perspective about your current situation that brings a change in your outer world to make your life function in the direction that you want it to. That's all it is, because that change in the direction of your thoughts, which are frequencies we know that different thoughts that you have can literally change the hertz frequency of your body so you can shift your own frequency because you are moving. Electricity and thoughts influence the plasmic realm.

Speaker 1: 17:15

Take a moment on that one, because so many people they clam up when you say that because it's like, oh my gosh, what does it even mean? How could we even think that we have those capabilities? We do, we do, and people do it, and they use it every day, and those that know how to use it, those are the people in power. So if you want to be one of those people, you need to get on board. You need to do what it takes to gain that information, to start working with these frequencies and to take that next step. So, to answer your question, jules, you're not supposed to go back, and going back means thinking should I go back? Going back means labeling that silence or that space that you're in as deafening. Going back means letting the fear sink in and you don't need to listen for what's next. What you need to do is focus your energy on staying focused on what you want, staying focused on how you want to feel and putting out into the universe what it is designing to bring back to you as you speak. That is 100% up to you. It just depends on if you want to take the power or give it away.

Speaker 1: 18:26

This next question comes from Kai, from Port Townsend, washington, and Kai asks I've changed so much that my old desires don't fit anymore. How do I call in new ones without forcing them? Okay, so you're not calling in new desires, you're not saying I want a new job. What you're doing is you're realigning your energy with how you want to feel. You're using feeling, because feeling is that catalyst, and feeling is something that a lot of us have let run rampant for a long time and we've been told it's something that we have to ignore, it's something that we have to shut down, it's something that we have to almost have this internal bypass for not feeding into it, when that feeling is actually what's structuring everything around us.

Speaker 1: 19:12

So it's the most important thing for you to gain a perspective and gain control on. So you already know in your world right now, kai, that the things that you have in it aren't in alignment with what you want. So what you need to do is take some opportunities to sit down and ask yourself what do I feel when I am aligned? What are the emotions that come through when I'm aligned with where I want to be. And you don't have to know where you want to be, because that's where people get stunted, get very stunted on this concept. You don't need to know where that end result lies. What you need to know is how you feel when you're there.

Speaker 1: 19:55

So if you feel peaceful and you feel accomplished and you feel free, then you have to take your current situation, even if it seems like it's challenging, and you have to interconnect those feelings into your current life. So if you have a job that you don't love, then make sure that you are doing something extra that makes you feel more free. Maybe changing your schedule a little bit, where you're working from 9 to 5 or whatever hours you're working, instead of driving home from work, maybe you take a walk after work and you get the opportunity to be with nature. Maybe you plan something totally different, like going to a new class, a painting class, a dancing class, you know anything that involves creativity and the arts. You're always going to hear me say that's where expansion lies. So always do those things, always step into those things, always connect with those things, because as you do that, you're going to be connecting into that part of yourself that is trying to expand creativity, trying to expand its knowledge and trying to open up to what to call in first. And you have to also change the role that you're not calling anything in. You're aligning with something that is already there.

Speaker 1: 21:17

And this is a whole different concept about timelines and about reality and about how time works, whether it's linear or whether it works all at one moment or we're all living one moment and then they're stacked on top of each other. So again, I'm not going to go into that major quantum realm with this, but what you have to understand is that the you that you're trying to find is calling you from whatever or wherever it already is, or you wouldn't feel that pull to shift. That's kind of a pretty heavy topic. I want you to understand that about every aspect of your life, every part of you that you want to be. You want to be that because that part of you is calling you towards it. What you want is seeking you. So the objective isn't so much how do you call in something new and not force it, it's how do you align with what you want to bring towards you. And if your old desires aren't working anymore. Then you want to feel the feeling of what it feels like when something is working on those desires, something is igniting you and then you want to try to infuse that as much as possible into your life. Again, that infusion is going to be done by creative outlets. It's also one of the reasons why they went through and they cut every single budget they could for the arts or anything that was really creative in our public school districts.

Speaker 1: 22:38

I want to encourage all of you parents out there, as we continue to move down this road with this podcast, to make sure that you are giving your child the tools that is necessary for them to succeed in the future. And that's going to be on you because you're not going to find that in any kind of education publicly. That's available because it was taken out and part of our evolution depends on it. And I could always do an entire podcast on homeschooling. I am a homeschooled parent of two children and I'll be completely honest with you. There's no other options. There's no other options in today's world that are going to compare to how your child soul evolves when you take the driver's seat with them and you let them evolve as souls in a safe environment. So I could do an entire podcast about that and send in your questions if you'd like me to, because I am always there as an open book for all of you. But I'm never going to give you the dumbed down version. I'm going to always be honest, and sometimes that honesty can be very controversial and uncomfortable, and that's never going to shy me away from providing you with it, because it's what we need to hear. It's how we grow. So if you're ever uncomfortable by anything that you hear, you're always going to hear me say step back and ask yourself why. Because in that discomfort there's a seed of information that you're trying very hard to ignore and you don't want to point it out. So make sure that you open up to that awareness whenever it happens from within.

Speaker 1: 24:09

Okay, this next question comes from Isla from Bisbee, arizona, and Isla writes I'm grieving the energetic version of myself and what I used to be. Is it normal, during a spiritual upgrade or in a change within my life, that I would be feeling this level of loneliness for where I was headed versus where I am now? Absolutely, isla. Every single one of us go through that moment. It's actually called the dark night of the soul. So if you wanted to do a little bit of research on that.

Speaker 1: 24:40

It's a very common thing that occurs when the old you is dying and the new you is still forming. You is dying and the new you is still forming. There's this period of almost silence or quiet or disconnection that occurs in an in-between and all too often what happens when you're in a disconnection is you panic and then you go back to the old you because that's the last time that you felt that connection and you're longing for it. So you go back to the old versions, you try to reinvent those old versions and what happens is faster and faster and faster you funnel out of them. So after you leave an old version of yourself that no longer fits, whenever you try to boomerang back to it, it's going to be shorter and shorter durations before you see why it didn't fit and then step back out of it again.

Speaker 1: 25:29

So, no matter what, you're eventually going to have to go through that section period where the old you is falling apart and that can be riddled with a lot of intense emotions. This is also that time period where you will hear a lot of people start to become depressed or a lot of people will become anxious. A lot of people will start to feel like they have no place. That is what happens, because you are watching old parts of the energy, of what you once were no longer getting attention, so they're dying, they're not viable any longer. So you're going through a grieving process, and that's to be expected. When you make major shifts in your life or your thought process, you are going to absolutely follow them with periods of grieving what was? And that's where people get lost because they think, okay, I did it, I left my current relationship, it's going to be fantastic. And then the parts of them that drew them to that relationship in the first place have to then leave their energy in order for different parts or different opportunities to evolve. And during that leaving process, it feels like an intense breakdown of everything that you once were. And the challenge is staying focused and that's why I encourage everybody I work with.

Speaker 1: 26:53

Journaling is huge, doing mantras huge, keeping your body moving huge. When you move your body, you're moving energy, and when you're releasing energy, you've got to move it out. So going for walks, starting a new workout routine, going bicycling, whatever it is that gets you to move that body, that's important and no matter what, as you're shifting and as these things are changing, addressing them from a three-pronged approach, which I talk a lot about in my masterclass for Vibrational Architects Handbook. You have to have a three pronged approach to any level of change that goes on. You have to be doing something to promote your mind to be changing, your body to be changing and your spirit to be changing. You can't just decide you're going to make changes with just one, because the other two are very important aspects of what create that tripod or that connection, of that triangle which you'll see in all types of ancient scriptures and ancient geometric shapes. There's a reason for that it's the power of the mind, the body and the spirit in connection that creates that tripod of energy that can make a shift.

Speaker 1: 28:03

So as you're changing and as you're seeing that this old you has stepped away and that the new you isn't shown up and you just feel like you're stepping back and you don't understand what's taking place and you feel very sad, I want you to now start looking at what you can do to start building towards that new you and make sure whatever you're doing involves a three-step approach. So if you're looking for more love in your life, then I want you to start using mantras that are based in love, whatever it takes, in order to retrain that brain, that mind, into the direction of love. And then I want you to look at yoga positions that are about opening up your hip center, opening up your love center, like your chest and your heart, so that you can let that flow deeper. Also, going for simple walks in nature that is one of the most incredible ways to attune to that frequency of the resonance within the entire field. So that is another great way. Keep moving. That's something you're doing for your body and something that you're doing for your spirit. I want you to sit in, I want you to focus on what it feels like when you have that love or you have that thing that you're wanting.

Speaker 1: 29:12

So go into meditative states, go into chanting states, go into the opportunity to sit down and do some journaling, whatever it takes to then get that spiritual energy in line, that trifecta or those three frequencies combined together. That is how you're going to shift the reality that is in front of you faster and you're going to be able to be okay with being in that dark night of the soul or that period of time when things are changing so significantly and the old you falls away. The key is to not get lost in that night. It's to constantly keep your eyes on the day so you can keep walking through that night knowing that the light is coming again.

Speaker 1: 29:54

That night, or that darkness is what a lot of theological practices refer to as the devil, some refer to it as the dark side, some refer to it as our lower vibration energy. Every single practice and belief system from the beginning of time has had something that they called or labeled that darkness to be. And the truth about that darkness is it lives within each one of us and what you choose is going to be the deciding factor on what evolves in front of you. So if, in that darkness, you choose to go with it deeper, then you're going to do what You're going to go deeper into that darkness. But if you choose to recognize what it is, then you're going to do what You're going to go deeper into that darkness.

Speaker 1: 30:30

But if you choose to recognize what it is, which is a period of change and transition, and to welcome what's happening and what's taking place, but to also create new activities and create new things that you're engaging in, to keep expanding, that is the sweet spot of how you move through those shifts and how you move through those changes.

Speaker 1: 30:51

It's about acknowledgement and it's about redirection, and between those two things you're going to be able to promote the growth that you need and put yourself in a position that allows you to evolve comfortably as you move through this amazing new change in your life. Anytime you make a change, you're producing a miracle from the inside. So know that you're a creator, know that's within your power and never step away from it. Okay, our time is up for this week, but please continue with all the questions and, as always, I will be there to help you move through anything that you are working on to architect your new reality. Each week, every week, a new episode comes out, tuesdays at 5 am and I'm here. If you have any questions, just send them over at jilliangracecom slash ask. I'll chat with you soon.